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That, the from the some folks that couth, the president was very happy to hear that. that he was not a target that dpaf him some comfort. but obviously since then he has not had a lot of comfort because he's lashed out. >> even as rudy giuliani is running around saying he's not part of the investigation, donald trump continues to just lose his mind every day on twitter. >> yeah. he won't stop talking about it, including yesterday. michael, the timing of this makes sense, the mccabe's letter. because if you think about the other statements that president trump made right around there, in may, 2...

Bombshell in october. i'm sure if they could wrap up one phase of it by early september, they would love to do that you're not going to see a lot of surprises in october. better to go through it and wait until after election or drop something in september. >> do you think that bob mueller and rudy giuliani are having deep conversations, exchanging information on timelines, i'm thinking that rudy might be overstepping the boundaries of truth once again here. >> it seems while giuliani is still insisting this is a possibility for the president to sit for an interview, he's throwing down so many ...

Are republicans, largely, independents, pretty substantially and even some democrats now question the legitimacy of it. >> kasie hunt. i've not heard any democrat speak as explicitly about impeachment as of late as did rudolph giuliani right there. >> you combed the halls of capitol hill. >> this is a question i ask literally every democrat. i walk the halls with a microphone and say do you think we're to that point. they all, to a person, with the essential of tom stire who is not a democrat. they said we need the mueller investigation to finish. if there's evidence of wrongdoing, we'd be hap...

The senator's book "written out of history, the forgotten founders who fought big government" is now out in paper back and senator, good to have you on the show this morning. >> thank you. >> mike, always great talking to you. i've got to say, you've never been afraid to take unpopular decisions and this book is -- you're no different in this book, actually siding with aaron burr. kind of going against the cultural grain and historical grain of the past 200 years or so but you say aaron burr was an early defender of small government. tell us about it. >> he was. aaron burr is known by many ame...

And he said i'm talking to the president several times a day. >> did he have what tom hanks had in "joe and the volcano"? did he just have brain cloud? >> he's doing an enormous amount of media. and it for us reporters, we have to sort of chase it. he is the president's lawyer. and he is doing exactly what the president wants him to do. he's out there aggressively just pushing this message. and the president thinks they are scoring points that they are really moving the ball here. because they think it's a public opinion issue. >> so he talks to the president daily? >> yes. and i take him at h...