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Even mike. >> that's what i say. eugene, thank you as well. >> thank you, gene. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> up next, the cutest interviewer in the world. >> what are you talking about? >> oh, my goodness. watch the snap chat question when -- you have to watch ben during the snap chat question. >> i thought he was cronkite meets murrow. >> so awkward. chief of buzzfeed, ben smith, who sat down with anthony weiner for a wide-ranging interview. first, bill karins speaking of awkward, with the forecast. >> snap chat. >> yeah, really. >> speaking of snap chat, yeah, seriously. >> send me one mo...

I have no doubt it has an impact on young african-american males on how they look at police officers, how they look at new york city, and the government, and how they look at the united states of america. >> could this -- well, i mean -- >> it sure as hell would have that impact on me. >> there's no question that if you're 18 years of age, and you're walking to the subway to go to nyu, to go to wherever, work or whatever, and you're stopped repeatedly over the course of a year, two, three, four times, stopped and frisked, your view of the police is going to be entirely different than other vie...

That's not counting all the shootings, burglaries robberies. >> that's because of stop and frisk? >> in part because of stop and frisk. we changed a lot of the laws in sentencing in albany, but part is better policing. there's no question about it. >> don't you, governor, have concerns about a policy, even if it is part of the solution, where if i'm walking -- if i'm an african-american man walking down the street with my young daughter, i can be stopped for no reason whatsoever and then have to explain to my daughter why the police came for me for no reason? doesn't that worry you on some lev...

Mugged and i'm sure it has contributed along with other factors in the decline in crime in new york. but the constitution doesn't allow targeted marketing. it says that -- that laws have to be enforced fairly and the judge saw discrimination in the way this was being enforced. i'm sure this will be litigated on appeal. but it seems to me there's a fairly obvious way around, at least that part of the decision. the fourth amendment question is a different question, but i don't know that that is -- that that would stop the whole policy. >> you could -- >> gene brings up an interesting point. new ...