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Parents. also to get married. it is very likely that relationship with her is what may have been the tipping point or spark that radicalized him. >> i mean, i realize we are dealing with a different ideology, but what kind of radical islamic woman goes on what's potentially very much a suicide mission, when she has a 6-month-old baby girl? >> well, you know, it is interesting, megyn, not just radical islamic ideology. we saw this in june of 2014 where jarod and amanda miller also a couple, shot up two police officers and killed someone at wal-mart. this is not specific to the islamic organizat...

Parents. also to get married. it is very likely that relationship with her is what may have been the tipping point or spark that radicalized him. >> i mean, i realize we are dealing with a different ideology, but what kind of radical islamic woman goes on what's potentially very much a suicide mission, when she has a 6-month-old baby girl? >> well, you know, it is interesting, megyn, not just radical islamic ideology. we saw this in june of 2014 where jarod and amanda miller also a couple, shot up two police officers and killed someone at wal-mart. this is not specific to the islamic organizat...

Told by vladimir putin he has a ring around here with 30,000 troops, thousands of other security types. he says that nothing can happen in what is all but a lockdown. but then, i was thinking, through a prior conversation, eric, the terrorists were there long before the ring of soldiers came. so they're there already, right? >> neil, that is the problem. right now, we have three of the chechen black widows apparently on the ground inside sochi. these black widows are the wives, the widows of terrorists who russian security services killed. it's personal for them. they want revenge. apparently,...

Or whatever the circumstances, is that a weak point now that we've underestimated, it seems, in some way, female terrorists? >> well, i don't think we've underestimated female terrorists. as michael leiter said, he is speaking specifically about the chechen black widows. >> right. >> but again, we've had husband-and-wife teams. the problem here is not about who is the individual that does the act of terrorism. you have men, you have women, you have children. we've actually seen people do that, abandon their families and going off and died. this particular team, husband-and-wife team, have so b...