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Vulnerable. can we protect him? we can protect him and as i said, you know, right now i don't fear any -- i don't fear any retribution right now but a year from now, two years and what happens in a case like that is, you know, you get lazy. you get the security that you think you don't need and that's when putin -- that's when putin attacks. >> that's what we saw with skripal, presumably with this chechen guy. long memories. >> and we have these families, exactly, and we -- we don't want defectors in the united states. if we recruit someone over seas, we would rather have them work in place, p...

We can protect him and as i said, you know, right now i don't fear any -- i don't fear any retribution right now but a year from now, two years and what happens in a case like that is, you know, you get lazy. you get the security that you think you don't need and that's when putin -- that's when putin attacks. >> that's what we saw with skripal, presumably with this chechen guy. long memories. >> and we have these families, exactly, and we -- we don't want defectors in the united states. if we recruit someone over seas, we would rather have them work in place, provide the information that they...

But i mentioned a somewhat ominous development in this story today is that russia has now put out an interpol notice seeking international assistance for the russian government to locate this person who, again, has just been named in multiple western media outlets as somebody who was working as a spy for the united states inside the kremlin. now, that news is ominous because of the well-documented history of russia tracking down and killing its dissidents and critics and spies all over the world. this report about them looking for this guy through interpol comes hot on the heels of this gonzo ...