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>> absolutely not. going back to what the russians, fsb were interested in, was do we have a problem here, is this guy going to -- is he a chechen separatist. i guarantee the fsb is sitting on information about him, including what -- you think the fsb wasn't paying attention to him while he was in dagestan? they have information about him and they're not sharing it with us. they should be the ones getting kicked. >> don't ask questions i can't understand. you know what this reminds me of, though? it reminds me if president obama got hemorrhoids, we would have 340 million amateur proctologists....

Have not seen chechen terrorists or chechen militants targeting u.s. interests, correct? >> absolutely. and i cover both instances you referred to and they were purely targeted by radical elements within the chechen separatist, extremist movement. more recently, there have been increasingly fractured and repressed islamist rebellion groups here that are younger. perhaps part of their manifesto occasionally makes references to the united states as well. potentially being a target post afghanistan and iraq. but it is on the fringe and main target is moscow, the seat as they regard as the occupyi...

Copycats, more of the small domestic terror cells? and how does law enforcement need to respond effectively? not necessarily to catch them. they did it well but prevent it in the first place? >> you will see copycat threats. when i sat there every night with the threat math matrix, after every event, that is the matrix they use to track threats after every event someone could call in and say i want to do something like that. what i fear is people too quickly will categorize this as terrorism. this looks more like columbine than al-qaeda. two kids ra radicalize and between themselves gand out t...

Entire chechen population to central asia, a deeply radicalizing experience, as much as a third or a half of the chechen population died there. in the '90s and early 2000s, russia fought a brutal war there against chechen separatist who is became increasingly affiliated with the islamic, islamic terrorist insurgencies around the world. >> it radicalized both sides, russia and the chechens, for the churchens, the chechens because increasingly radicalized and islamized. >> i want to bring the folks in new york into this. what's interesting to me, the chechen terrorist attacks in russia have been...

Copycats, more of the small domestic terror cells? and how does law enforcement need to respond effectively? not necessarily to catch them. they did it well but prevent it in the first place? >> you will see copycat threats. when i sat there every night with the threat math matrix, after every event, that is the matrix they use to track threats after every event someone could call in and say i want to do something like that. what i fear is people too quickly will categorize this as terrorism. this looks more like columbine than al-qaeda. two kids ra radicalize and between themselves gand out t...