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Who ate everyone else's cake, they're divided on it because they didn't get enough. so i think it comes down to where actually people's opinions are in the two camps. >> well, what -- could the democratic base, could the liberals among the democratic party's base provide that same kind of leverage to president obama? could they say to him, listen, very publicly, we are not going to accept it if you let the bush tax cuts go again, or if you touch a hair on medicare's head, and that would allow the president to say, listen, it's these crazy liberals over here. i just can't go anywhere on medicar...

And that would allow the president to say, listen, it's these crazy liberals over here. i just can't go anywhere on medicare. >> yeah. i think that is where the force sort of has to come. and it has to come, if liberals do care about this, making that demand felt and member, this doesn't all happen in the negotiations in the two weeks. there is precedent here in the dreaded primary that every republican member of the house and the senate is terrified of. a tea party primary. so they have already been kind of kept in check prospectively by the round of primaries that happened in 2010. so you ca...

>> well, what -- could the democratic base, could the liberals among the democratic party's base provide that same kind of leverage to president obama? could they say to him, listen, very publicly, we are not going to accept it if you let the bush tax cuts go again, or if you touch a hair on medicare's head, and that would allow the president to say, listen, it's these crazy liberals over here. i just can't go anywhere on medicare. >> yeah. i think that is where the force sort of has to come. and it has to come, if liberals do care about this, making that demand felt and member, this doesn't a...