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Ambitious plan to change medicare medicaid and social security. so james, what do you make of governor christie's i guess you could call it presidential comeback strategy? some people have ruled him out. clearly not him. >> well i think he does have to do something to set himself apart. he's looking right now like he's in that second tier of candidates. he's not -- he's going to struggle to get the money and the voters that are now going to jeb bush. >> he's had some big donors step up recently. >> he has. given super pacs you don't need that many check writers as long as the checks are big en...

Influence from businesses, at least to the left she does. so, i think she really was the person she would get excited about and the check writers like her, too, if you look at how she does in the fund-raising circuits. >> can she beat hillary clinton if she does run? >> i really don't. she talks with her fists and she speaks well, but in the end, hillary has a marvelous, well-oiled machine. she is familiar and when people look at the difference in, i mean, people outside the democratic primary voters, hillary has travelled the world. she has seen everything. >> but in 2008, they said the same ...

Influence from businesses, at least to the left she does. and so i think she is really the person they would get excited about. the check writers also like her if you look at how she does in the fund raising circuits. >> could she beat hillary clinton if she does run? >> i don't think so. i really don't. if you look at her talk with her fists and she speaks well. but in the end hillary has a well-oiled machine. she is familiar and when people look at the difference, people outside of the democratic primary voters, hillary has traveled the world and seen everything. >> but in 2008 they said the...

It was like watching a tennis match. chances are it does not end like you said with stability, a consensual government, participatory democracy. i don't see this getting better, i think it gets worse. martha: is there any role the united states can play to aid the people on the ground who desperately want a democracy? >> i think the united states does have a seat at the table. we give egypt aid. it's mainly military assistance. but the big check writers in egypt are the wealthy gulf oil states. saudi arabia, kuwait, the united arab emirates. they don't want a return of the muslim brotherhood i...

Check writers the republicans have. tell us about it. >> so out west, governor christie was yesterday at sheldon adelson one of his casinos. he was the one that bank rolled basically the newt gingrich campaign in 2012. so shelden adelson is the most sought-after checkbook in america. he can buy himself, propel a candida candidacy. we're told not to read too much of this. he wasn't there. he was in asia. his name on the invitation for the $3800 a person fund-raiser. showed the two do have an affinity. chris christie is -- does a line with him on at lot of issues. this is a preview, shows how th...