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About this thing called the utah voter verification process where people are going door to door in utah, a state trump won by the way to try to identify fraud in order to prove that there is likely fraud in other states, i guess, is their four dimensional chess thinking. that's intimidating. it's not the same as ms. freeman but someone is coming to your door, demanding to see documents to prove you are who you say you are. that's a thugocracy and intimidating. the down stream effect of this is it's not just obviously we should be concerned about the largely seniors as you point out, people tha...

>> this is a thugocracy, tim. that's what this is. this is the kind of thing you'd think you'd see in a third world country. this is warlordism. that's what the republican party is up to now and that's what donald trump unleashed on this party and on this country. your thoughts. >> yeah, it's not a one-off, joy. you've covered this before but the "salt lake tribune" wrote a couple days ago about something called the utah voter verification process where people are going door to door in utah, a state that trump won, by the way, to try to identify fraud in order to prove that there is likely fra...