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50% surge in homicides. >> news anchor 3: people shot to death and at least 60 others wounded. >> anthony: however much you might love chicago, want to celebrate its general awesomeness, its character, its architecture, its food. there's no getting away from the ugly fact that chicago's south side is also currently the murder capital of america. why do you think people are killing each other in such large numbers in chicago and not in new york? >> webb: let's be clear, it's only a few spots, it isn't the whole city. it's not the whole city. >> lupe: to be honest, chi-raq, is englewood. >> anth...

With that chicago is america's biggest -- second-greatest city and i think that has to do a lot with it and people are just thrown to one side and left to their own devices. >> just by calling it "chi-raq," you're saying it's a war zone. did you feel like it was a war zone when you were walking these neighborhoods? >> no, because the police were all around us. but my first day of pre-production, one of my -- i had to go to a funeral because one of my guys got shot. the first day of pre-production i was at a funeral. and while we were filming -- and i said this before, excuse me if it's redunda...

And that's why we need to have the multipronged strategy, including our muslim allies. because at the end of the day, it's going to be muslim soldiers in iraq and in syria that are going to ultimately defeat isis it won't be the united states alone. >> mike mcfaul, wendy sherman, thank you so much. we have to leave it there. happy holidays, happy new year to you both. coming up next, spike lee on his controversial movie "chi-raq" and the conversation he wants his film to inspire. >> i want people to think

With that chicago is america's biggest -- second-greatest city and i think that has to do a lot with it and people are just thrown to one side and left to their own devices. >> just by calling it "chi-raq," you're saying it's a war zone. did you feel like it was a war zone when you were walking these neighborhoods? >> no, because the police were all around us. but my first day of pre-production, one of my -- i had to go to a funeral because one of my guys got shot. the first day of pre-production i was at a funeral. and while we were filming -- and i said this before, excuse me if it's redunda...

But it's not just police shooting that spike lee wanted to draw attention to when he sat down with chuck to talk about his movie. >> who is the audience for this movie? >> everybody. >> it's interest i don't go say that. >> i say everybody, you know why? >> why? . >> i've been asked many times. i've been making films since 1986 and the one question filmmakers always say, what is the take away? what do you want people to think when they come out of that theater. and you say i don't ask that question. but just know, i want people to think about guns. that's the takeaway for this film. 88 america...