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And see. we don't know how long this interim chief will be in place. maybe he will go for the permanent job. we just don't know that at this time. we also know that he replaces someone who is from the rank-and-file in ferguson. the deputy chief became the interim chief for quite some time. almost six months now. and so we're just kind of waiting to see what happens. but that was deputy chief ikoff. he's going back to his regular position. and we'll hear from him soon. >> he's not taken his place behind the podium. we'll take you back to ferguson when that happens. sara sidner thank you so much...

St. louis county in so they can do this. the problem in terms of change then becomes, if you want to change, chief jackson came from st. louis county. chief ikoff who is sitting here now, going to be the the acting chief. came from st. louis county. who are you going to bring in? st. louis county. that's not the change perhaps that people want. so again what i'm coming back to chris is it's not going to look like people think it's going to look. i think if you drill down into all this i think in order to really make change we're going to have to change on a much broader scale. not just ferguso...