Hypertechnical, because that's sort of boring, you know, that might be hearsay, what he said to others. there are exceptions to the hearsay rule that might permit it. but they might also have independent knowledge. so yes, possibly, if they were part of a conversation, they could be called as witnesses too. >> chuck rosenberg is our guest, a former chief mueller, former u.s. attorney for the trump administration. will you stick with us? >> i would be delighted. >> you don't have a choice. >> okay. >> we'll be back with chuck rosenberg in just a moment. kimchi bbq. amazing honky tonk? i can't b...