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>> no wall, no deal. the reason we need the wall is the walls don't have prosecutorial discretion. >> laura: you get the wall and deal and end chine -- chain migration. that's 400,000 people a year. in five years you'd have more than 1.8 million amnesty of new family-based immigration that's gone. in five years you'd swap the 1.8 number and exceed it and the cuts would still keep coming. i don't see you'll get a cut in legal family chain migration. i don't see it. >> laura, here's what this establishes, though, if the president served up 1.8 million in amnesty in change for $25 million for a w...

>> no wall, no deal. the reason we need the wall is the walls don't have prosecutorial discretion. >> laura: you get the wall and deal and end chine -- chain migration. that's 400,000 people a year. in five years you'd have more than 1.8 million amnesty of new family-based immigration that's gone. in five years you'd swap the 1.8 number and exceed it and the cuts would still keep coming. i don't see you'll get a cut in legal family chain migration. i don't see it. >> laura, here's what this establishes, though, if the president served up 1.8 million in amnesty in change for $25 million for a w...

Many of his supporters. he had a mandate to end daca. a mandate for a wall and to end chine migration and to end the visa lottery. we can go on and on. and they're matched up negotiations and it's troubling to me. i think seeing the democrats turn against it. the one thing he's accomplishing is convincing the american people of the real truth which is democrats don't care about solving the problem. they want the problem to exploit it politically and to bring more and more people into the united states tab on their side of the political ledger. >> laura: i do think he has exposed them. it's not...

Now that the president has said he will negotiate on. along with the other three things that are born to him. and chine migration. >> do you think it's confusing, according to the polls that americans so far blame republicans and president for the shutdown as he said they would when dwas president obama shutdown, do you find it confusing that republicans control the white house, senate, and the house, and trying to say democrats are to blame? >> what i'm saying is those democrats who cast a vote of no last night voted against keeping the government open. they voted against border patrol akts a...

Security, it did not end the visa lottery, it did not provide serious reforms to chine migration. the president is not going to present a bad deal. he wants bipartisanship, but he wants serious reforms thereat are going to put us in a place where a few years from now, we don't have hundreds of thousands of new illegal immigrants in the country asking for protected status. >> if the president doesn't get everyone in a room and makes a deal, there's not going to be a deal. millions of americans will suffer. i want to point out what lindsey graham has told me, what dick durbin has said. this was ...