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And over again and we get madder and madder. governor sanford tried to get it all in the open when he could and he has had some time since this has happened and is there enough time? who knows? i think he's trying to move on and it's a good opportunity. >> what's the key? not discounting the national journal's advice and what is the key to overcoming the scandal? >> as you and i talked about earlier, i have family from south carolina. people in the south in states like south carolina don't like to be embarrassed by their public officials and i don't think he's home free yet. there's a wide rep...

One, he gave them a big gift on immigration with the dream act and amnesty program. number two, put in place the obamacare, which basically is $10,000 a family. >> absolutely reject that notion, that description. i think that's absolutely wrong. we need to continue to show that our policies help every voter out there achieve the american dream. >> bill: joining us from washington, sabrina shaver. from nashville, tennessee, chip salesman. former campaign manager for mike huckabee. you agree with him, right? >> i do. i think one of the bigger reasons why is because i think there is people could ...

One, he gave them a big gift on immigration with the dream act and amnesty program. number two, put in place the obamacare, which basically is $10,000 a family. >> absolutely reject that notion, that description. i think that's absolutely wrong. we need to continue to show that our policies help every voter out there achieve the american dream. >> bill: joining us from washington, sabrina shaver. from nashville, tennessee, chip salesman. former campaign manager for mike huckabee. you agree with him, right? >> i do. i think one of the bigger reasons why is because i think there is people could ...