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Basically what they're doing is they're having these groups of people meet at certain locations and coordinating it with the taliban and then they're getting them safely to the airport. so bringing small groups in intervals is helping with the choke points that are existing at the gates and getting more safely and securely and get them manifested and out of the country. that's been a good development over the last several days. if you can get that going before the august 31st deadline, but to your other point, andrea, there are thousands of others who will want to get out who will not be able ...

>> the state department says american citizens, westerners with diplomats and sivs with a visa in hand should come to the kabul airport and will be let through the gates that will slow the flow to a trickle unless they waive other requirements and do the vetting in these third counties, the lilly pads that the military planes are taking them to in qatar, germany and elsewhere. there's choke points there as well. so it's all difficult. but for those that reached out to us that are in hiding that are telling us that the taliban are knocking on their doors and cowhering with their children and th...

Everything would be done nicely. governors have to take responsibility. that's why bill clinton was superior to barack obama in ways of governing. it's a disaster. they're used to not having consequences, saying fine words and siting down. joe biden was there a long time. he thinks as a senator. >> martha: yeah, the deliberative body produce as certain president. thanks, bill. we'll look for that piece tomorrow. it's tragic that we have surrendered 9-11 and what it means of americans. it's a day of victory for the taliban and al-quaida. it's a tragic headline. so the army veteran that says the...

Doing extraction operations in kabul. now, this isn't wide scale. we're talking about maybe dozens and dozens of people. the u.s. does not have that appetite to go beyond the perimeter of the airport. how do you see this developing, craig? >> well, the big question as has been raise d earlier, we don't know how many americans are willing to get out or frankly we can get out. there's a priority for american citizens. that's easier for those folks if they have the documentation to prove it, but then you have an untold thousands numbers of afghans who helped the americans over the years who had b...

Which the president has proposed. we are saying let's put those two together, let's class passed through reconciliation and let's to do what is incredibly popular across the country. >> let me just ask you about what is going on internally among democrats right now. because i just as i just explain, and as you seem to agree, republicans have kind of taken themselves off of the table here. which is clarifying in terms of what needs to happen now in order to get this done. but i am acutely aware that democrats in congress come in all sorts of stripes and flavors. are there really significant dif...