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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131122:05:36:00

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131122:09:45:00

All u.s. air force academy cadets. joining us now for the interview tonight is scott heinz. scott heinz was a distinguished graduate of the air force academy in 1992. by his senior year, he was commanding a third of the cadet force. he was gay, and of course he had to be closeted. the air force academy referred him as a cadet to ted haggard s new life church in colorado springs, for him to undergo therapy designed to turn him into a straight man. it didn t take. mr. heinz is now a city council member in rancho mirage california. mr. heinz, thank you for being with us. thank you, rachel. thanks for having me. i ve got to ask your, let me ask you, if anything about having been there as a gay cadet strikes you wrong? if any of that doesn t resonate with you in terms of your experience. and also your reaction to this news about the counseling program. well, i think you re very accurate in painting what is really a decades-long history. and the academy has been working very hard, part ....

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thank you, rachel. thanks for having me. i ve got to ask your, let me ask you, if anything about having been there as a gay cadet strikes you wrong? if any of that doesn t resonate with you in terms of your experience. and also your reaction to this news about the counseling program. well, i think you re very accurate in painting what is really a decades-long history. and the academy has been working very hard, particularly in the last five to six years, to really overcome this culture that s really developed at the academy, that s very much influenced by the community that s around them. my reaction to the news this week was one of being horrified. you know, i experience conversion therapy several times in my time in the air force, but as cadet, i was referred through the new life church and then to a repairtive therapy program in colorado springs, which i secretly participated in. this was pre-don t ask, don t tell, keep in mind. as a trailer park kid, this was my ticket out of ....

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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 October 8, 2011

christian to a competent to a competent nonchristian like mitt romney. that s why i m enthusiastic about rick perry. what do you say that mormonnism shouldn t be an issue in this campaign? he s just as american as everybody else. i agree he s just as american as anyone else. and the article six of the constitution and mormones say they are christians. they believe in jesus christ. a lot of people say they are christians and they are not. they do not embrace historical christianity. i think we have the duty to prefer christians as our leaders. that s what john j., the first justice of the supreme court said. we have a decision between a rick perry and mitt romney, i think evangelicals have to go with rick perry. a spokesman for latter day saints declined to comment on the statement. he said that those who want to understand the centrality of christ to our faith can learn more about us and what we believe by going to mormon.org. joining us is robert jeffers. ....

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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 October 8, 2011

we should always prefer a competent christian to a competent to a competent non-christian like mitt romney. that s why i m enthusiastic to rick perry. what do you say to those voters that say his mormonism shouldn t be an issue. he s just as american as anyone else. i agree, and article six of the constitution they say they are christians, they believe in jesus christ. a lot of people say they are christians, but they are not. i, again, believe as christians we have the duty to prefer and select christians as our leaders. that s what jon jay, the first chief justice of the supreme court said, and again, i think when we have a choice as evangelicals between a rick perry and mitt romney, i believe we go with rick perry. shortly after, a spokesperson for the church of lader day saints failed to comment. those who want to learn about the centrality of our faith joining us now, pastor, thanks very much for being with us. why do you believe the mormon church i ....

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