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Illegal spying. in other words, they subtract subcontracted spying that in order to circumvent american laws they said we'll use by honest person for me? do you believe that likely happened? >> i don't know but i know we are going to find out about that in two weeks and i think barr should be looking at that but i want to make this point really clear. "the new york times" article is an effort to stop the barr from looking at how this whole thing began in 2016 regarding the trump campaign. what are they afraid of? this really bothers me a lot that the left is going to try to say there's somethi...

Here. do you believe that those three specific countries, australia italy, great britain, that there were specifically outsourcing of illegal spying. in other words, theyng subcontracted spying that in order to circumvent americanon laws, they said we'll use by-- n for me? do you believe that likely happened? >> i don't know but i know we are going to find out about that in two weeks and i think barr should be looking at that. but i want to make this point really clear. "the new york times" article is an effort to stop the barr from looking at how this whole thing began in 2016 regarding the t...

Look at it in that context. the russians played the democrats when the democrats thought they were playing the republicans. >> julie: right. it is ironic. >> it is. >> julie: christopher steele being recently called out for falsifying the dossier and then, of course, that being what ignited this investigation in the first place certainly is going to work in his favor. >> right. don't forget the texts though. the texts indicate there may have been more leaking than we knew about to begin with. especially with comey leaking, admitted leaking. there needs to be more pursued there and mueller will...

The whole investigation is corrupt at its core because that was what prompted it. this says, no, that wasn't the case. what started the investigation was george papadopoulos running his mouth at a bar in london. the australian ambassador reporting it back to the fbi and then the fusion gps report coming in. and verifying or fortifying some of that information. that it seems to me is fundamentally a very important thing to know. >> we learned that papadopoulos information from "the new york times," think it was just last week. these weeks are longer and longer. >> it's tough to know. >> i belie...