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Ideology. what geraldo and dr. gorka are talking about, the use of the internet. talk about it. >> listen, this is why i wrote the book. the american people are being disarmed in the war of ideas. they are being disarmed in the information battle space. initially new york authorities and mayor de blasio denied that it was jihad terror. and this follows a pattern in the west. they deny that jihad terror is jihad terror and even when it's obviously jihad terror, they still continue to deny it. the problem is not trucks and rental companies. the problem is not guns and it's not knives. the proble...

They will be killed. it is a real, clear present danger for everybody. you know that because you lost friends on 9/11. >> i absolutely do. but i'm a war correspondent. we are at war with radical sunni muslim extremists whether they have a caliphate that's real or one that is virtual. rather than focus on immigration -- you can have that debate all night long if you want. i want to focus on protecting the. the nypd has done a great job. we have to take more extreme prudent measures. like what? on that bicycle path even in nice, france. >> sean: can we vet. >> we have to put a cement barricade. ...

A lot more people. you would have thought after 9/11 that people would take this issue of immigration seriously. immigration is about national security. and you are exactly right. once people get into the country it becomes far more complicated. so you want to stop them at the border. and when the president of the united states said, as he did when he first came into office, we can't vet these people. some of these governments are -- effective war with us u some of them don't exist. some of them are involved in cill war. you know, we can't call yemen and say, hey, can you check this guy out on...

The idea individual in basement one way upstanding citizen. few days later because they go to a website become a jihadi. never happened. closest case we got was jihadi jane and that wasn't a serious case. when you look at serious plots that have occurred there always some connection. either the individual traveled to the pakistan, middle east, syria, got training or they were in touch with another human being who indoctrinated them, who blessed their action against the inifidel. there is a footprint. there is electronic and physical footprint and we have to identify, number one, by understandi...

Guys anguysgays and jews are ki. it is oppressive to women, gay guys lesbians and jews. >> i don't disagree. >> sean: we need to vet them. >> in new jersey, in sight of world trade center 5 in that one small new jersey town. muslims this n. that small new jersey town. they drive ubers and limousines. >> sean: pam? >> putting up barriers, no war has ever been won on the defense. it's reactionary. my god, still taking off our shoots because of richard reid in 2001. you are never going to win a war that way. the idea that we stop certain -- muslim immigration from jihad nation is a rational respo...