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As stopping radicalized people who have turned to terrorism once they're in our country. >> exactly. and you know it's not just those documents which are so devastating to any security rationale that the administration has put forth, it's even the president's executive order itself. what's the evidence he needs it? he cites evidence starting in 1979 and 1984. congress has had 40 years to deal with this problem and they've never seen fit to do something like this like enact a muslim ban or anything like that and so what the president has done here is really dramatically out of step with the tra...

Circt cot that issued that devastating pushback against the first iteration of this ban? >> it will. and one of the most frustrating things about this is every time the president loses one of these cases he and his administration lambaste them as being so-called judges or liberal or activist judges. it's important to remember that that ninth circuit court of appeals decision, one of the three judges of that unanimous decision was richard clifton who is a george w. bush appointee. what the state of hawaii is doing here is standing up for bedrock american values. from the state's perspective, th...