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Subjects in just a minute. let me ask you one more on this one. you said the bill in arizona would not just covered president of the united states but do you have any doubt in your mind that similar bills around the country and in arizona and this entire conversation around the country is directed at one man, the current president of the united states? >> well, yeah, i would agree that it is of course discussed in a different manner but it's always been directed to the president of the united states and in arizona, you know, it was pretty well known it was directed, i believe, at the president...

All these guys, bachmann, would they be birthers? do they believe there was some incredibly complicated conspiracy that got this guy into the country secretly, made him an american look-alike but not really one? do they really believe conspiracy or are they conspiracy or are they pandering to the yahoos in. >> chris, this is the first question i have to say, i don't know. >> you don't know whether they're for real or not. >> i just don't know. would you like to see my circumcision certificate? i have it. i have it here. >> i just think the whole thing is based upon a crazed kind of conspiracy ...

Quoting the governor, i never imagined being submitted with a bill to ask candidates to submit their b -- baptismal or sir sum -- circumcision certificate. are republicans out there in revolt over this? >> well, the guns on campus bill caught more people off guard than the birther legislation veto did. >> why? >> the birther legislation, like i said, it did have strong support in the legislature, but the governor has a longstanding history of not commenting on legislation before it reaches her desk, but she had never offered any subtle hints of support for it either. she has been very focused ...

Senator. mark, do you think that these guys like trump who obviously have brains, they make a lot of money in business they have rational brains when it comes to making business decisions, do you think if you put them under sodium pentothal, these guys, top people, even bachmann, would they be birthers? do they really believe there was some incredibly complicated conspiracy that got this guy into the country secretly, made him an american lookalike but not really one? do they really believe this birther conspiracy theory or just pandering to the yahoo? >> i have been on this show before and yo...

Ballot. however, loophole. if you do not have that particular type of birth certificate that arizona doesn't even issue, you can supplement your weird prove your citizenship to arizona dossier with additional documents, such as a circumcision certificate. i am not making this up. that's what it says. a circumcision certificate. what's that you have there? a totally official printout of your birth record that everyone thinks of as a birth certificate? no, we arizonians do not accept that. but if you give us a document attesting to some -- sometimes religiously significant knife work in your dow...