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State needs more moderate and less controversial image around the country. >> let's take a look at the gun issue. by the way, i'm sorry. here's senator mccain. he tweeted today, proud of governor brewer for her vetoe of the birther bill. it was the right decision. back to steve gallardo, the state senator out there. is this like the high-water mark of zaniness in your state? do you think it's finally topped out, tapped out here? >> well, until we change the makeup of the actual state legislature, probably not. but the end of the day, this type of legislature has put a black cloud over the stat...

All these guys, bachmann, would they be birthers? do they believe there was some incredibly complicated conspiracy that got this guy into the country secretly, made him an american look-alike but not really one? do they really believe conspiracy or are they conspiracy or are they pandering to the yahoos in. >> chris, this is the first question i have to say, i don't know. >> you don't know whether they're for real or not. >> i just don't know. would you like to see my circumcision certificate? i have it. i have it here. >> i just think the whole thing is based upon a crazed kind of conspiracy ...

Trump, who obviously have brains, they make a lot of money, have rational brains when it comes to making business decisions, do you think if you put him under sodium pent thol, all these guys, bachmann, would they be birthers? do they believe there was some incredibly complicated conspiracy that got this guy into the country secretly, made him an american look-alike but not really one? do they really believe conspiracy or are they panhandlering to the yahoos in. >> chris, this is the first question i have to say, i don't know. >> you don't know whether they're for real or not. >> i just don't ...