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Not done to give equal rights to the minority and so on, is that enough, though, to defend the president? ultimately, they're going to come forward with articles of impeachment that claim a a, b, c. >> right. absolutely it's not enough. but it's essential not to move off of the process argument too quickly. people inside washington think that we've talked about this for a week or two so therefore it's over. the points particularly that kim made that the president's not allowed to be present in the process through his attorney, as was done for richard nixon and bill clinton, that the point that...

Not done to give equal rights to the minority and so on, is that enough, though, to defend the president? ultimately, they're going to come forward with articles of impeachment that claim a a, b, c. >> right. absolutely it's not enough. but it's essential not to move off of the process argument too quickly. people inside washington think that we've talked about this for a week or two so therefore it's over. the points particularly that kim made that the president's not allowed to be present in the process through his attorney, as was done for richard nixon and bill clinton, that the point that...