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The streets, because there's been quite a bit of chaos, looting in kabul. when the state collapsed, the taliban initially came in, in relatively small numbers and the taliban is all about law and order, that's the one thing that they've been trying to tell the people they can bring, that they will bring strict islamic law and end the chaos, but today we saw quite a bit of chaos with false flag operations. groups of criminals, groups of looters carrying taliban flags stealing vehicles, going into homes so the taliban is trying to dial that back and put some law and order back on the streets. he...

President met three days, monday, tuesday and wednesday and giuliani was there last night. >> that explains what he's been doing because we've sort of gotten these reports he's seething and angry and sour. we know he's considering it because he's considering changes, homeland security and other places. one thing i wanted to add in context to laura's point is remember the -- what we reported out, the -- the clash point between the president's lawyers and mueller was giuliani and others, mostly giuliani said we're not answering any questions about obstruction. that's off the table. we'll engage ...

They've got to do a bunch of stuff when august recess is over. and all that rubber is going to hit the road at that point, right? >> we got to keep the government funded. they've got to raise the debt limit. and the plan is to take up -- to take up tax reform. >> right. and that's sort of a heavy lift. and the truth is, though, on the details of that, trump doesn't have sort of a strong point. so i don't see that necessarily as a clash point. i do think on immigration, where you've got the -- as john harwood was saying earlier, the business community really doesn't want to restrict illegal imm...

Trump. but their votes would always line up with him. now we get this russia sanctions bill passed. the question for me going forward, will they vote against trump? >> and that's what is interesting. i think folks don't recognize just what's coming down, barreling down on capitol hill. they've got to do a bunch of stuff when august recess is over. and all that rubber is going to hit the road at that point, right? >> we got to keep the government funded. they've got to raise the debt limit. and the plan is to take up -- to take up tax reform. >> right. and that's sort of a heavy lift. and the t...

Westwood and white house reporter for "the washington journal" elon. over the course of the past almost 18 months at this time. where are the clash points in here? what are you going to be focused on as these two men meet? >> obviously the biggest clash point right now is the fact that president trump very recently pulled out of the paris climate accords. macron was one of the few world leaders to come out and criticize president trump directly for that, saying we need to make our planet great again. there are actually a lot of areas where the two overlap in syria. both of them support removin...