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To have any amendments. the will you says pass a budget. they thumbed their noses for three years. >> sean: what do you think of the class war fair that continued to be played and joe biden admitting their plan is to raise taxes by over $1 trillion? does that play well with america? paul ryan thought it's a good line if we confiscated 100% of the wealth that quote evil rich people that aren't paying their fair share, i think that was rebutted well this week. >> you can impose this tax above quote people making over too,000 a yeefr, -- year to pay for the government six day. >> that is right. s...

Msnbc we have not verified the accuracy of that tape from loyola so we are not playing it. but it is a whole issue, you know, jay carney has now responded to it at the white house briefing. he said that this was basically circumstances after a very bad day by the obama team. the romney team rather that the charge was based on a 14-year-old video sounds very familiar to one that was tried and failed in 2008, 14 years ago president obama was making arguments for a more efficient, more effective government, specifically citing city government agencies he did not think were working effectively, ca...

Sue new new said to me of class war fair, trying to change the subject, chuck. >> it is. this to me feels more about look at where they distributed it, they went to the drudge report to make sure the audio got out there. this is about reapussuring the base, they spent a lot of time over the last 48 hours making calls to donors, conference calls, calm everybody down, don't flee the ship, it's been a rough couple weeks, the convention could have gone better but hey, as bad as it is, take the worst poll out there, we're only down five or six points. this is not -- >> but let's -- >> i want to mak...

Tougher sell when you're trying to battle the idea that you're just for the rich guy. >> howard, are there some perils here because it could get depicted as class war fair? >> i think there are. if the president and his allies end up looking like they resent wealthy people and they're going after them just for the fact that they're rich. i think that could hurt the president with some independent voters in swing state, but i can assure you with talking with some people advising the president's campaign and democrats on the hill, they're perfectly will be to take that risk because they think th...

Romney's central argument has been i created the jobs, done the business -- and that's a tougher sell when you're trying to battle the idea that you're just for the rich guy. >> howard, are there some perils here because it could get depicted as class war fair? >> i think there are. if the president and his allies end up looking like they resent wealthy people and they're going after them just for the fact that they're rich. i think that could hurt the president with some independent voters in swing state, but i can assure you with talking with some people advising the president's campaign and...