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Communicating, he must be doing it through human beings, we need to find and follow the couriers. that was a hypothesis with which we went into this four years ago or so. >> so this is classic human intelligence? you had people on the ground. they talked to people. they developed relationships. is that right? >> it is. but it also came out of detainee interrogations. one of the more prominent leads we had at the beginning of the exercise was partial identity information that came out of detainees that we were holding in our so-called black sites, and then from that point we used all the tools ...

Very difficult calls to bring it to conclusion. >> condoleezza rice, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> this wasn't done one brick at a time. this was actually done one pebble at a time. this is classic analytic work. [ female announcer ] in the grip of arthritis, back, or back joint pain?

To find and follow the couriers. that was a hypothesis with which we went into this four years ago or so. >> so this is classic human intelligence? you had people on the ground. they talked to people. they developed relationships. is that right? >> it is. but it also came out of detainee interrogations. one of the more prominent leads we had at the beginning of the exercise was partial identity information that came out of detainees that we were holding in our so-called black sites, and then from that point we used all the tools of intelligence. i can't go into detail, but it was signals intel...