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I wasn't holding anything back that i cared about. >> my next guest was an assistant special prosecutor on the watergate investigation so he knows this type of investigation, tape tampering and all, nick ackerman. thanks for being here. the obstruction portion was always a significant part of the case. but when you hear they're looking at the tapes, what does it say to you? >> says to me it's a couple of reasons. first the video tapes would have shown who went in and out of the storage facility at the time the grand jury subpoena was served upon the trump organization for all of these records....

Shaded. and if you don't know what their demands are think it's very difficult to come to some sort of compromise. >> i would disagree. i think republicans in the house have been pretty clear on just across the board cut. we just reauthorized the debt limit a few years ago, last year, whatever the case may be. and what's interesting to me is that you have -- it's like groundhog day. i've worked in d.c. for over 30 years and you have in 2017, you had schumer, and you had pelosi, saying we need to sit down and negotiate this with the president of the president needs to bring everybody together n...

Tapes. >> absolutely. and he's very close to trump, and his son is very close to trump. the question is, what were they told? who told them what to do with those tapes? what do they know about the movement of documents in and out of that storage area? >> does any of this rain watergate bills to? >> oh, absolutely. >> the tapes -- >> sure, the missing tapes. the cover-up. it's all the same. what's really at issue in this entire mar-a-lago classified document case is whether or not justice was obstructed whether the subpoena that was served on the trump organization was adhered to, or whether th...

Investigation complete with tape tampering and all. that's nick akerman, nick, thank you for being here. so obviously, the obstruction portion of this was always a pretty significant part of this case. you hear that you are looking at the tapes. what does that say? to you? >> it says to me they are looking at it for a couple of reasons. first of all, these videotapes would have shown who went in and out of the facility, the storage facility at the time of the grand jury subpoena was served on the trump organization for all of these records. so the question becomes did they tampered with those,...

Organization, he knows what might have happened or what trump might have ordered done with the tapes. >> and he's close to trump, and his son is close to trump. what were they told, who told them what to do with the tapes, what do they know about the movement of documents in and out of the storage area. >> any of this ring watergate to you? missing tapes? >> sure. the missing tapes, cover-up, it's all the same. the issue on the entire mar-a-lago classified document case is whether or not justice was obstructed. whether the subpoena served on the trump organization was adhered to or whether the...