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Training. but those are decisions that have to be made at a local level involving community and the police did the, even issues like avoiding stos. >> you mention what can be done at the local level. at the federal level, president biden made another push for sol kind of national police reform. obviously, the george floyd act justice and policing act fell apart, specifically over the issue of qualified immunity. it's holding officers legally liable for some of their ac actions. i'm wondering where you stand on that issue and what law cans pass to better address these problems. >> there's some ...

Who ask why are you not one of the leaders in congress on this issue? >> i would say that's not true. for example we funded the study in congress that i pushed for to better understand what you've just said on the atlantic side. sea level rise and changes in the climate are measurables. i don't think there's a debate about whether that is happening because you can measure that. the secondary aspect is how much is due to human activity and from a policymaker the question is what policies can we change to deal with that human activity. that's where the debate has been. so i confront it two ways....