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Immigration discussion, what is your -- once the borders are secured what do you think this congress would agree to do? >> well, this congress won't agree to do much of anything. but i think that a new congress has to look seriously at creating a guest worker program, at out-sourcing programs so the cars are done by american express, visa or master card. then enforcing the law strictly on employers, once there's a clear instant check process for guest workers. anyone, after you have done that, dealing with the question of people who have come here illegally and how do we deal with it? i think ...

Is your -- once the borders are secured what do you think this congress would agree to do? >> well, this congress won't agree to do much of anything. but i think that a new congress has to look seriously at creating a guest worker program, at out-sourcing programs so the cars are done by american express, visa or master card. then enforcing the law strictly on employers, once there's a clear instant check process for guest workers. anyone, after you have done that, dealing with the question of people who have come here illegally and how do we deal with it? i think it is a step-by-step process....

Is your -- once the borders are secured what do you think this congress would agree to do? >> well, this congress won't agree to do much of anything. but i think that a new congress has to look seriously at creating a guest worker program, at out-sourcing programs so the cars are done by american express, visa or master card. then enforcing the law strictly on employers, once there's a clear instant check process for guest workers. anyone, after you have done that, dealing with the question of people who have come here illegally and how do we deal with it? i think it is a step-by-step process....