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Typically have had a lot of contact with international people and transactions, and like i said, people who are much older and have much longer careers than him and managed to do this. so why is this so difficult. >> but he had to amend it four times. the first one was blank because they said mistakenly submitted. and they continued having to update and update and update. so the interim clearance went on for months. >> let's not forget the person who ran the security office was replaced. i believe that the person who granted these clearances wasn't the person who originally began the clearance...

The person who originally began the clearance process as well. robert klein. >> is it normal for people -- i've never heard of after talking to kirsten, i don't run and memorialize what kirsten said because i'm concerned she is going to deny it the next day. does it say something to you that, you know, you have don mcgahn and chief of staff memorializing stuff? >> yeah, of course. listen, this is a -- if you're talking about giving somebody as high profile -- listen, i am certain that general kelly and don mcgahn thought there is a possibility that some day the house may flip, the senate may f...

The house investigation has been revitalized, the senate investigation is ongoing. that senate investigation report from the time the investigation concludes, we don't know it's about to conclude, from the time it concludes, it's going to take six months to go through a really onerous clearance process. as the president is facing all of these issues, there's going to be more and more and more shoes to drop. these other big senate reports are looming out there. >> i think mrit beipolitically, common noise, if you will, on capitol hill. that's why i think these investigations with the southern d...

Who's not related to him jared kushner has all of this power. he ran a herd over the shutdown negotiations, which were a d'backal for the president story last friday from nbc news about his clearance process short circuited at best. and now the questions from christie about the firing the mike flynn. >> i think the question has been what evidence do we have that jared kushner is good at this or at least good enough to be given so many portfolios and so much responsibility there are a couple of cases which he has drawn praise other than from the usual suspects he was credited with accelerating ...

And the less people that have it, the better if they don't have a need. the more people that need it that get it because they have a need, that's where we should be. and so as somebody whose committee oversaw the clearance process, recognizes we've been behind and we are still behind in the process of getting people timely clearances, this is a good start and hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of clearances should be revoked by people who no longer have a need before they come up for a five-year renewal. >> sandra: next could be bruce ohr. this is what he had to say. i think he is a disgra...