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And senior adviser jared kushner, because we have all reported he is still operating under an interim clearance. today is the day that goes into effect. many people were wondering how this is going to affect jared kushner's ability to do his job in the west wing because his portfolio largely deals with foreign policy. we have new reporting from my colleague kevin lip tack that aides have been currently trying to develop a plan that would allow jared kushner to still work in the west wing without having to have president trump intervene. as you see here, the president has given his chief of sta...

That list. people with not a problem in the world so that will be up to general kelly. general kelly respects jared a lot. and general kelly will make that call. i won't make that call. >> bret: lightning round. the security clearance issue right now, jared kushner has an interim clearance and general kelly, chief of staff had said that's eventually going to come to an end. but will it? we're back with the panel. byron? >> forgive me for thinking the president's son-in-law is going to keep his security clearance. i think that's kind of the message that we got from the president today. although...

He's not micromanaging the clearance process, he's interviewing people who knew kushner before he came to the white house. >> you're saying what we're getting at, go ahead. >> i think it's quite possible that what the significance of the rosenstein call and he placed the call to the chief of staff, it got bumped over to mcgahn, i guess kelly was in a meeting or something. is that material was developed by mueller in his investigation that made kushner's clearance even more problematic than it might have been. that makes me think this is coming to a head pretty quickly, kushner seems to be a ma...

Done with their piece. and based on the information that we know publicly about his foreign financial entanglements and his failure to disclose them, it seemed like this would be a very difficult clearance process for them. you know, the president can always put on his security clearance fairy godmother outfit and wave the magic wand and give kushner security clearance. that would be poor judgment given the derogatory information in his background which also makes him a subject of the criminal investigation. >> you also tweeted a response to donald trump's twitter tirade against his sitting at...

This administration. >> that's right. i spent much of the week talking to people who are familiar with the clearance process and as its worked under previous presidents. everybody that i talked to expressed amazement that such things as the rob porter case could slip through because there have been processes set up very detailed processes for that kind of information getting from the fbi to the security office at the white house and on to the more senior aides and the counsel's office and senior staff office. the memo that general kelly put out acknowledges that they need to do better and says...