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That people of his sophistication it can go on as long as two years. suggestions otherwise are pernicious, spears you and are just more fake news. >> yeah, that's crazy. and in fact, you're talking about somebody who is the son-in-law to the president, in an assistant to the president position. they move heaven and earth to get things done for the white house. i watched it for years. the business that somehow, oh, this is just a backlog. he's in the front of the line. and again, mcgahn didn't have to wait for the clearance process to end. because there's two things here, there's the security c...

Is -- >> you're talking about jared or porter? >> well, both. >> both. >> and so -- and then the process really slows down. and then they go, what the heck are we going to do? and do we tell the fbi director, do we tell mcgahn? so when it takes that long a time, there's a problem. there's a larger problem which coats identified which is this clearance process is broken. so this take takes, in my exper, six months was the fastest. nine months was bad. then it would take a year. >> let's be clear -- >> you have people looking at the president's daily brief who do not have a top secret sci, secur...

Of preliminary clearance in order to fill a slot, but i have publicly stated if that is the case, the access has to be limited in terms of the kind of information they can be in a position to receive or not receive. so i think that's something that we have to do as part of our security clearance review. >> jared kushner's reading the pdb. >> yes. i mean, director coats also said that the classified system is broken, that the clearance process is broken. so just to go into the weeds, i'll be a statesman for one second on this then go out, when -- >> you can stay in your statesman mode. i don't ...

You know how you get security clearances and the like and all the wringing you go through to get that. i'm sure you dealt with the same. but obviously something fell through the cracks here, that will prompt a lot of americans whether republican or democrat orphans of this president, that the process itself might have problems. what do you think? >> i don't think the process itself has problems. no. neil, what typically happens, most applicants get cleared. the only thing that really slows it down is if there's something that lived abroad in 10 or 15 countries and it's hard to track down wheth...

The president's tweet yesterday saying that people's lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation put people on a rant. >> i was horrified but i was also very shocked. as many people have noted, jake, this is not the rob porter we worked with in the white house. people should look at the result of how this was handled. what is the result? the result is one week ago rob porter was a top aide to the president of the united states and today he's out of the white house. >> i think there was probably a lack of communication of different elements in the white house. but the fbi runs ...