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And only april ply to home plate? >> it's absolutely insane. it's the wussification. of american men. american sports. are you kidding me? you can't plow the man down if you needed base? it's been in the game forever. i played short stop. most of my career. shortstop. a guy sliding into second base high and hard. breaking up a double play. what's the difference -- i've got cleat marks in my leg still to this day. what's the difference between that and somebody getting to home plate? it's absolutely ridiculous. what's that? you can't throw at a guy anymore? that's bull. >> this is just can -- e...

>> it's absolutely insane. it's the wussification. i played short stop. a guy sliding into second base high and hard. i've got cleat marks in my leg still to this day. what's the difference between that and somebody getting to home plate? it's absolutely ridiculous. you can't throw to the guy anymore? >> this is just can -- eric is exactly right. i can't believe. this is the whole idea. look where catchers are standing. the whole idea is block the base. of course you've got to run over him. >> pete rose said look at the catcher. catchers wear more armor than humvees in afghanistan. some say fr...