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And anxious, meet them there and try and address those concerns and take them on a journey. that's how you win hearts and minds. and i would also say to some of the prominent feminist campaigners who've used quite dehumanising language about trans people, it's so gratuitously obnoxious and deeply offensive, especially because we're talking about a group of people in the trans community who are not great in number. where they are great in number is when you look at those statistics on abuse and harm and pain and mental ill—health. and that's what i want to address. you are a politician shaped...

It's the only way you ever win. what is it labour has to say to those people? i think it's the same challenge that every labour opposition faces, which is people assume that the labour party's got its heart in the right place, but they always need reassuring that we've got her head in the right place, too. and what i mean by that is, they instinctively know we're the party of public services and tackling inequality and injustice. they know that's in our dna. but they always need reassurance that we can be trusted with the money, trusted on law and order, and trusted with national security. now...

I believe that spending people's money wisely, being tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime, and standing up for our national security are labour positions, and traditional labour positions you can trace back to the attlee government. let's turn to yourjob, then, and what you have to do, before we return to some more fascinating things about your life as well. you now have to shape labour's message on this continuing pandemic. you've used a phrase about living with the virus. interestingly, it's a phrase the prime minister has also used. what do you mean by it? we've got to learn to l...

You are saying listen tojk rowling, hear her, understand her, don't cancel her? and it works the other way around. the end i would also say two very prominent feminist campaigners and people who are genuinely worried about sex—based rights, and you've got to take people at face value, people are worried and fearful and anxious, meet them there and try and address those concerns and take them on a journey. that's how you win hearts and minds. and i would also say to some of the prominent feminist campaigners who've used quite dehumanising language about trans people, it's so gratuitously obno...

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