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The only way to do that is to talk to the central figure in this story. that's jerry sandusky. and when there is corroborating evidence, which there is for much of what jerry says with regard to penn state and joe paterno's lack of culpability, i will use that to try to make the case it was a rush to judgment. >> let's look at this apparent evidence. >> you don't remember snapping towels yourself, do you? >> i'm not actually sure. i would have been more inclined to do slap boxing or something like that. i'm not sure. he always, no matter what we did, he'd always get the last lick in, the last ...

Evidence, which there is for much of what jerry says with regard to penn state and joe paterno's lack of culpability, i will use that to try to make the case it was a rush to judgment. >> let's look at this apparent evidence. >> you don't remember snapping towels yourself, do you? >> i'm not actually sure. i would have been more inclined to do slap boxing or something like that. i'm not sure. he always, no matter what we did, he'd always get the last lick in, the last smack. and then i would chase him and i ran him into a wall in the shower area, where we were showering in and that was it. i n...

When he testified he walked in on a sexually charged conduct between sandusky and a boy abused back in 2001. here's what sandusky said happened between himself and the boy. >> you don't remember slapping towels yourself, do you? >> i would have been more of a slap-off thing, i'm not sure. then i remember him always, no matter what, he would always get the last lick in, okay? he would get the last smack and then i would chase him, like, and i ran him into a wall. >> the filmmaker, john ziegler, says he's trying to fulfill disgraced penn state football coach joe paterno's dying wish. >> here's w...

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