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About the economy getting better and some numbers look like they're improving but all of our friends are hurting. my wife's friends in south carolina, my friends in florida, mika, your friends in pennsylvania, they are all hurting. they are doing worse than their parents did 30 years ago. >> no question about it, joe. you look at families that call our office, every member of congress gets the calls. they're losing their homes and jobs. uncertainty is a problem. if you want to point a finger at someone, it has to be what's happening at washington. the true adults have to show up. you feel like...

Food. >> can you smell it? >> the smell function must be disabled. let's give that ipad a taste. >> lick it. come on. >> ah! is that a joke? >> you know things are bad when the weather guy starts to mock you. >> that's not funny. >> and the number one story of the week -- >> the only question is whether politics or ideology are going to get in the way of preventing a government shutdown. >> the country was swimming in politics and ideology this week as the clock counted down to a shutdown. >> the tea party cheers for a shutdown. >> the president isn't leading. >> speaker boehner no longer has ...

>> certainly, mika, that's not a message good for independent voters. i remember during the health care debate where democrats looked the most disconnected where they started debating abortion provisions wanted to fund abortion inside health care, a week and and a half, two weeks not only debating abortion inside of jobs an abortion health care bill inside of jobs and darned if republicans aren't doing the same thing. by the way, the economy is horrific out there. it's absolutely terrible. talk to your friends and neighbors, it's horrific, yet we will shut down the government over an abortion ...

Than some of your -- some similarly kind of constituents, similar elected officials to yourself in the house. what would you say to your colleagues in the house who seem to be feeling much more pressure from their constituents than you are? >> i don't know. remember, i'm the guy that helped cobble together a balanced budget amendment where we limit spending to 18% of gdp. i want to cut spending as much as anybody in this town, i want a pro-growth policy. i've been here before and i understand you can't always get your way. what you have to do is get the best arrangement you can, get the bigges...

That's presidential? >> i know this. i will be a terrible president, i've never taken it seriously. if i decide to run, it's one of the greatest scams in the history of politics and the history period but it's pretty sad because the whole world is looking at us and laughing at us. ultimately, we're going to destroy our own freedom. by the way, if i run, i will have pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics. >> oh, my. 22 past the hour. >> that's slightly edgy. >> was that edited? >> just a tad bit. we're going to be talking about donald trump coming up in "politico" and the stron...