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Know how he'll comport himself in terms of does he seem reliable, someone actually now telling the truth? he is going to jail for not telling the truth after he had a plea arrangement so he's got sort of a background. on the other hand, we have yet to hear from anyone in trump's inner circle disclose this kind of information not about the specifics, though those are relevant but simply about how did trump keep, you know, his empire so to speak together, right n. terms of all the smoke and mirrors, what we do know that's essentially how trump did it and for that, that's going to be a lot of cur...

Risks to the president. >> carrie, is there any line do you think that when he's facing capitol hill cohen next week that's going to say that's privileged communication between me and donald trump? >> i think it's pretty unlikely. the fact of the matter is, the president says what is convenient based on the circumstances of a particular day. so when he thinks it's convenient when that first search took place of michael cohen, that harry mentioned, when that first took place he thought it was convenient to say, oh, there might be a lot of attorney/client information. when michael cohen was char...

We believe so, simply because this is one of the last times that the prosecutors and the special counsel have to essentially lay this all out before paul manafort is sentenced in early march. so that's what we're looking for from this filing and then, of course, today comes news from "the new york times" from bloomberg that are reporting that even if paul manafort gets a pardon after he gets sentenced here in federal court, that the prosecutors in new york in new york state are looking to bring state charges with -- related to some of his financial doings there. we reported here at cnn that th...

And there have been so many spin-offs from the special counsel's investigation that have spun cases off to the u.s. attorney's office and the district of columbia. to the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of new york. others as well, eastern district of virginia, just to name three. so there are so many and those don't have a limit on when they have to end, complex financial investigations, white collar crime investigations can take time so i think with michael cohen coming back, what it just shows as prosecutors develop more information in whatever particular aspect they're cond...

Unclear what he said. could the president have been saying we want a paper trail? >> i don't know. it doesn't matter what he is saying, laura, in terms of your question. i agree completely with professor dershowitz. there's no indication of a crime here. it may end up that it establishes the president lied, which is certainly a serious matter. i understand he said he didn't know anything about the payment by the parent company of "national enquirer." that's very different as to whether or not there was a crime. i see nothing resembling that. i do think it's shocking that irrespective of whethe...