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Croat, and this is krauthammer -- this is nuts. those who fancy themselves tea party patriots fighting a sold-outcocktail-swill i sold-outcocktail-swilling establish pt are demanding yet another cliff dive as a show of principle and manliness. but there's no principle at stake here. this is about tactic. if i thought this would work, i would support it. but i don't fancy suicide. it has a tendency to be fatal. as for manliless, the real question here is sanity. nothing could better revine the fortunes. michael gershwin says, quote, cruz views this as the last stand against obama care, a conser...

Pulp pulitzer prize winning conservative columnist says cruz belongs to the looney bin. "and this is krauthammer, this is nuts. every physical showdown has rebounded against the republicans. those who fancy themselves tea party patriots fighting a sold out cocktail swilling establishment are demanding yet another cliff dive as a show of principle, and manliness. but there's no principle at stake here. this is about tactics. if i thought this would work, i would support it, but i don't fancy suicide. it has a tendency to be fatal." as for manliness, the real question here is sanity, nothing cou...

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Economy, aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> this from a president who is incurably optimistic. for him to be modestly optimistic, that says something. that means the 11th hour is here. will last-minute action be enough to avoid a fiscal cliff? to avoid a cliff dive? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, in light of the president's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our bloblog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is sheldon ...