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Reflection on congress right now what we're seeing. >> let's say we get the small deal to prevent taxes from going up. i think a lot of people would have some relief at that. i can't even believe this is going to come out of my mouth. i probably know what you're going to say. do you have any confidence, is what i was going to say, that maybe in the first two, three weeks of the year next year, first couple of months even of the year that they'll get back to -- once we get past this cliff issue, that we'll get back to having those big conversations about taking on deficits and debts? >> okay. s...

And you've got to have -- it's great to continue trying to get rid of red tape and lower taxes wherever possible, but you also got to have some revenue sources, too. if we're going to deal with the fiscal cliff, right, in the lame duck session, which i think is a huge challenge, we've got to get everybody working together. i mean you look at some of the people that really do understand job creation and how businesses grow, warren buffett, who supported president obama, i mean he's looking at this cliff issue as really one of the key issues. people do want certainty, but that's the biggest unce...

President, when i got elected in 2010, republicans sat down, we worked together. you know we did our budget last year, in a divided general assembly, we passed it with 86 out of 100 votes. you've got to have, it's great to continue trying to get rid of red tape and lower taxes wherever possible. but you also got to have some revenue sources, too. if we're going to deal with the fiscal cliff, right in the lame duck session, which i think is a huge challenge. we've got to get everybody working together. you look at some of the people that really do understand job creation and how businesses grow...

At serious reform that could also have a bigger impact on how to deal with the debt? you've got to look at it you've got to have both, right? in colorado certainly we have worked very lard unlike the president, when i got elected in 2010, republicans sat down, we worked together. you know we did our budget last year, in a divided general assembly, we passed it with 86 out of 100 votes. you've got to have, it's great to continue trying to get rid of red tape and lower taxes wherever possible. but you also got to have some revenue sources, too. if we're going to deal with the fiscal cliff, right...