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The clean air act. today supreme court says nixon's agency and nixon's law that gives obama the power to address climate disruption. that's myth number one. myth number two, this will kill the economy. now, look, big polluters say that about every pollution control measure. and then once the rule is in place, american businesses do what they always do. they adapt, they innovate, they clean up the problem and keep making money. so, in the "crossfire" tonight, senators sheldon whitehouse and john hoeven. i want to start with you. isn't it the case that we need to look at acid rain, look at any o...

Pipeline go through their farm, ranches, many of whom concerned about climate disruption or experiencing extreme weather, and to highlight the fact that we do have an opportunity to say no to this particular project and invest in clean energy instead. >> what -- >> we're hopeful -- >> what is your response to rand paul's jill everywhere position. >> the senator's out of touch with basic american values now. we can't drill our way out of these problems. for natural gas we wouldn't be able to get the gas or oil over to western europe. we don't have the capacity to do that. we don't have the time...

Flee. you can imagine these scenarios with a billion climate refugees. that's a dangerous place. look, all these issues are interrelated. it's not delusional to focus on climate disruption, it's delusional not to. now, back in the "crossfire," we've got joe cirincione and bill kristol. i want to start with you. let's just go back to this point about the pentagon and its concern. you don't deny that the science of climate change. you believe that something could be happening here. we should take it seriously. >> clearly the earth has warmed. i don't think there's anything different about that t...

It's been for the whole last year. but that incredibly beautiful day led us to have 12% of the normal snow pack, less than half of the worst year we've ever had before. when i look at climate disruption and climate change living in california and seeing what's happening to us, then talk about why this is a terrible thing for the united states and people who live here, it comes home to me every single day that i get up and it's a beautiful day and look at the sunshine and don't see any rain. >> what are you going to say to john kerry? you're putting your money where your politics are. you've ca...

John kerry has a deep record as carbon warrior, as one analyst put it. but the obama administration faces competing constituencies. environmentalists who abhor the pipeline. and unionists who want the jobs it will bring. >> 45-day public comment period begins. the draft statement is infure rating both sides in the debate. sierra club calling it deeply flawed analysis to give lip service to climate disruption. the north dakota republican saying there is no excuse to postpone a decision any further. bret? >> bret: more on this with the panel. thank you. environmental protectionbe agency re-evalu...