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Mueller contradicting the trump barr claims, the reigniting of the impeachment debate, two mueller aides debating his approach. Ill be anchoring it at 9 00 p. M. Eastern on sunday night. I hope youll consider joining us. Dont go anywhere right now, because hardball is up next. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in washington with that horrific breaking news now out of Virginia Beach. Theres been a Mass Shooting at the Municipal Center there. 11 people are dead. According to police, the suspect, a current city employee, was also killed. Police say they believe the suspect acted alone. Were going t...

Why would you want to do that? who are you? what's going on? >> it's direct. clint will tell you as negotiators, what do we say to a guy who's going to kill himself? are you going to kill himself? we say, hey, look, are you planning on killing yourself? let's fwauk thatalk about that. you need direct intervention. you talk every night on your show about leadership, political leadership. it is the sine que non of stopping this problem. you'll never stop everything all, no car wrecks, no heart attacks. you want to reduce it. it can be greatly reduced in my view with real determination. look, the...

Coming up in fresno state next monday night, coming up two days from now, and i have to tell you mayor pete buttigieg, who's out there, he is calling for registration of firearms. that's of course a very hot proposition, clint. that's a hot one. registration. but maybe we're going to reach that point at some point. >> let me go to frank on that one. >> yeah, we may reach that, clint, but again, you start telling americans, okay, we're going to send a police officer to every house, we want to see your guns, we want to see your serial numbers on your guns. maybe in a hundred years but not in the...

We are and it's time to question that culture. >> have you seen any movie previews lately? they're horrible. it reminds me, clint -- or frank, back to the days -- clint, back to the days of "gunsmoke" which was the number one show for ten years and everything was about a new guy coming into town and trying to get a reputation by shooting something. reputation. isn't that interesting culture overlay? kill somebody, get a reputation. >> well, it's how we choose to deal with things. we've got to get additional coping mechanisms and start teaching people how to deal with trouble without violence. ...

An individual who's going into a crisis state, when we with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight we find these pre-incident indicators on an individual, our challenge is to find those indicators and to get society, law enforcement, mental health community, to do something about it along with doing something concerning our guns in this country too. >> clint, i want to ask you because you're the pro in this. if you have 330 million people in a country and more guns than that, it's just a roulette wheel that goes around and it's going to land on somebody. there's that many numbers, that many guns. some...