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Was too busy to watch, busy presidenting, being presidential. his advisers said, please do. they used the clinton example where clinton had his attack dogs on tv out there fighting for him while clinton was supposed to be looking presidential, working for the american people, and that was viewed as effective when you look at what bill clinton's approval rating was when he left office. there are other factors that play here, but that's the model they use. wednesday the president was able to mostly stick to that script and then we saw the hold on that discipline release on thursday with this ral...

Katherine the cautious. and pelosi and the democrats are completely misreading the clinton example. first of all, most critically, the charges against donald trump are infinitely more serious than covering up a private consensual affair. they cut to the heart of our democracy. as mueller said, they cut to the integrity of our judicial system and national security. moreover, sure, republicans loss a few suits in the house but they kept the house, and guess what they won? the biggest prize in america, the presidency, about 537 votes in florida when a quarter of the voters said the scandal was ve...

Saying, hold off, it's just not worth it. >> what do you think? >> i agree with gloria. you're looking at a woman who wants to hold the house in 2020 and wants her party to win the presidency. it's true, the founders intended for a remedy that would look like this. and if it's never used, it's never going to be used. how do you turn someone out of office? but you're looking back at the clinton example, you're looking at the republican party that's not going to convict him and therefore it would be a wasted effort on the house side, could be a political boon to the president. so it becomes a po...

President has not yet fully grappled with is this will be just a congress of unending hearings, unending investigations. and yes, on the margins, on television and in newspapers, the hypocrisy will be pointed out on both sides, republicans and democrat. but the reality is hypocrisy is not going to stop subpoenas. it's not going to stop open hearings. it's not going to stop any of the actionable things the president will be facing between 2019 and 2020. as you saw today in this meeting with schumer and pelosi, the president takes great pride in the fact that he kept the senate. that will matter...

We're so used to it, and some of his evangelical days made it perfectly clear, they don't care. >> i think they made a strategic choice as people often do in politics that he is delivering for them on their culture war needs on abortion, on judges, and they are fine with that. he's their champion. i will point out, though, the clinton example, how did that end? he was impeached and most of the country came to conclude the whole thing was a terrible waste of time and money and effort and it was a bad thing to go after him on sex. it is not impossible to imagine that the country comes to the sam...