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Accepted him as having a message from god. >> clive doyle is a branch davidian survivor, and to this day a believer in david koresh. >> david was constantly talking to god. god told me to do this. god told me to do that. we accepted that. >> god speaks to me. i have a message to present. >> to outsiders koresh soon transformed the davidian church into a cult. >> the most important element of the cult is the leader. and they always describe the same way as being charismatic. >> i mean, there are some things that god has consealed in his written word that are to be brought to do right before the...

>> clive doyle is a branch davidian survivor, and to this day believes in david koresh. >> david was constantly talking to god, god told me to do this, and that. and we accepted it. >> god speaks to me, i have a message to present. >> to outsiders, koresh soon transformed the davidian church into a cult. >> the most important element of the cult is the leader. and they're always described the same way, as being charismatic. >> i mean, there are some things that god has concealed in his written word that are to be brought to you right before the end of time. >> koresh preached end of days philo...

Themselves. >> the davidians bought property about ten miles east of town, built a compound, and named their sanctuary mount carmel after the sacred biblical site in israel. but in the early 1980s a new member appeared who would change everything. his given name vernon wayne howell. handsome and magnetic, he convinced his followers he would one day be reborn as jesus christ. church members would come to worship him as david koresh. koresh being the hebrew name for cyrus, the king and conquerer of babylon. >> he began to present the ideas that he had, and i would say 99% of the leadership of th...

>> reporter: the negotiators are now fighting on two fronts. >> hello? >> reporter: trying to calm david koresh -- >> you're just schmoozing me, trying use psychology on me. >> reporter: and trying to talk their own bosses out of overreacting. >> sometimes there's this compelling thing we call action imperative where authorities feel they have to do something to be seen as decisive and in charge. and when you're compelled to do that, you often end up doing the wrong thing. >> reporter: koresh isn't making it easy. he claims to have weapons that can penetrate the armored personnel car...

the standoff has been going on about 45 minutes now. the alcohol and tobacco people apparently have telephone contact with somebody in the compound. >> my name is dave koresh. >> david koresh. >> my name is david koresh. >> to his followers, david koresh was a messiah. >> god speaks to me. >> manifestation of god in the flesh. >> we believed this man had the truth. >> but to the u.s. government david koresh was a threat. >> machine guns and explosive devices. >> in 1993 they went to war in waco. >> this isn't america anymore when the atf has that kind of power. >> it ended in catastr...