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Which is worthying about today. too often, the tectonic events of 2016, brexit and the election of donald trump are rightfully blamed on a failed neo liberal consensus and elites who have forgotten to listen to the american man and woman. the nation has challenged and championed people to think about a populist that's inclusive and not divisive that doesn't scapegoat as donald trump's does. i think that's important to remember. there's going to be a fight on inside both parties, republican and democratic. the ascendency of a populist wing inside the democratic party, it seems critical in the w...

Party will rebuild and revive. >> if trump ends up becoming the sort of populist, protectionist, nationalist candidate. it seems the politics is realigning around that open/closed dimension. the people who were saying we want protection. trump embraced the idea in the inaugural address. protection is good. it will make us strong, secure. is that the core of it? >> i think we use these terms open and closed and they have certain moralistic is istic coi that make open better. the problem, you brought up scapegoating. who is the scapegoat?