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By the way, we do not know that fani willis won't indict. she has a keener sense of the calendar. we cannot be sure that she won't move this year. she is, as you know, she has issued 16 target letters. so she is on the rocket docket. but there is a higher principle here. and i have faith in these jurors, and of course, you know well, both of us have done this in front of juries many times, you strike the ones with bias. i have faith in those jurors who raise their right hand and swear an oath, or affirm, that they are going to follow the law and the facts where they lead. and i think it would ...

Closing statement, quickly please, councillor. >> phony willis is on the rocket docket after waiting a year and a half, let's start with that. and again, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying he should not be charged, i don't know why we keep going back to this false argument that i am not making. i'm making the argument that here we are in the middle of 2022, if you are going to charge donald trump soon, you have a massive, up the hill climb in order to convict him, that is what i'm saying. >> we did not say that. we are just saying that we have more faith in our justice system then you do. that...

Telling these people to go home until event to condemn the violence that we were seeing. it was him pouring gasoline on the fire and making it much worse. >> so, we have got a whole lot to talk about, david axelrod is here, alice stewart, elie honig, we are kicking it off for us. i appreciate all of you joining us, thank you so much. i'm gonna a little tongue-in-cheek about that, but it's true. if you look at what was tough for him to get through that speech, and i think that alice, you bring us something that's very important. you said to me, he also had trouble saying i lost. >> i concede, j...

Was worried about condemning the rioters because it would look like they were giving the media a win. >> yeah, and this is sort of trumpism, right? the idea that we've got to own the libs and the fake media and we can't give them a win, so they are reflecting trump's approach to the media, trump's approach to the insurrection, trump's approach to the rioters. but to see her there with all of her kind of courage and forthrightness and talking about what happened that day, so many other people haven't been brave enough to do that. something liz cheney talked about in that closing statement. i me...

Of homeland security's and tonal watchdog, asked for records of electronic communications from around the insurrection. committee vice chair liz cheney revealed in her closing statement on tuesday, the former president tried to call a witness, we have not seen in the public hearings yet. to which she warned the general public, do not interfere with witnesses. while the culmination of the panels evidence against donald trump approaches, trump himself continues to ramp up his fundraising ahead of a possible announcement of another presidential run. joining me now is -- former acting is just an a...