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Gloat, remote. >> just focus on what you want people's lives to be about. go out and gloat and promote. >> david plouffe was the 2008 campaign manager. welcome back. >> thanks for having me. >> yes, indeed. i would like you to speak both on the politics. the politics show a different number out of this white house. do you think joe biden is going full cargo? >> well, we need to. first of all, the pandemic clouds everything. people aren't as willing to give as much credit on the economy because the pandemic clouds are still there. i think as they lift, if you go out there and sell what you've d...

You're saying that -- in the past the example of bill clinton you worked for to compartmentalize. >> yes. every day he went out and it was sam donaldson. you have your job and things you're obsessing on but i have mine. we have to get back to work creating jobs and the american people making sure that we have health care for these poor children an he focused on the agenda for real, too. for real. and his team, it was second term more organized than we were in the first but this president is giving his voters a sense only job he cares about is his own. >> jason, do you buy that? >> well, i thin...

The first but this president is giving his voters a sense only job he cares about is his own. >> jason, do you buy that? >> well, i think the white house definitely has to figure out how to compartmentalize the ongoing russia cloud and part of the reason the president was frustrated, told three different times he was not under investigation but director comey wouldn't put that out. you can see where that clouds everything that's going on with the administration. look. i think reince priebus is setting up a vuk chur in the white house to where they have a disciplined message calendar and june i...