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Everything theyen with the through. >> give us a sense, is this a big black hole right now? are we in a legal mess? or is it just a purocedural issue? are people lost in the system? >> the administration is trying to make it harder than it should be. asylum is already difficult. many people go pro se. if you look at the approval rates in texas alone, there are only 5% or 20%. so they're trying to make what is already difficult even more difficult. >> how so? what are they doing? >> they're proposing making changes that would bar someone from getting asylum if they entered legally. that's the o...

Says to lester holt and he goes to him and says i didn't like this russia thing he was doing. that's why i got rid of the guy. >> i used to sit on wiretaps for months waiting for a statement like that. that is pro se evidence of obstruction. to have him put it out there the in public is advising to say the least. >> can you benefit legally by saying even though i committed a crime, i did it in such daylight conditions i couldn't possibly be guilty. >> if the i am too stupid defense does not work at the end of the day. >> what is this exercise all about because can a president be charged crimin...

>> laura: could the carter page, even with sovereign immunity, could carter page file in court an action for abuse of process or sanctions against justice department attorneys for omitting a material fact in a fisa application? is there any grounds for that? >> he could file something with the d.c. bar. wherever these people are members of the bar. he has filed a case in new york. >> laura: um-huh. >> he did it pro se. but he has a case. >> laura: comey's chief of staff chuck rosenberg all over television today look, if they really had concerns about this. if the trump people or the republican...

Process? >> laura: could the carter page, even with sovereign immunity, could carter page file in court an action for abuse of process or sanctions against justice department attorneys for omitting a material fact in a fisa application? is there any grounds for that? >> he could file something with the d.c. bar. wherever these people are members of the bar. he has filed a case in new york. >> laura: um-huh. >> he did it pro se. but he has a case. >> laura: comey's chief of staff chuck rosenberg all over television today look, if they really had concerns about this. if the trump people or the r...

There has been leaks that i spent ten hours without a lawyer with -- in "the washington post" mentioning that with the fbi. someone was saying about papadopoulos has been cooperating since july. i've been cooperating since march. i mean, i want to get the truth out there. it's very clear that this is the main offenses were the ones that were -- that happened with the civil rights violations and the wiretapping and the hack against myself. >> you're pursuing a pro se lawsuit about that? >> yeah. the sad part about it is there are two aspects of the january 6 intelligence report. one is the hack...