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Going to go back in hindsight and look, but the idea that somehow there's a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, i don't know how that happens. i don't know how that happened. >> so for you, that was always priced into the decision? >> yes. now, exactly what happened was not priced in, but i knew that they're going to have an enormous -- look, one of the things we didn't know is what the taliban would do in terms of trying to keep people from getting out, what they would do. >> with us now cnn chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins, david chalian. the president was defensive ...

Nick paton walsh is in doha. you've penned a new op-ed for cnn.com. you write, in the end, i -- >> reporter: the real tragic fact is we are in this situation because we stopped paying attention to afghanistan for really the best part of the last five, six, even ten years. it's a war that so few americans have fought in. it's a war that had been bogged down by fatigue, by endless promises that we're leaving, starting with barack obama in 2014. i can't tell you the number of speeches i heard from him where he essentially said therapy getting out. i think too there's been a serious problem in ter...

Vaccine to get in. watch on cnn saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern. back to afghanistan, what does the future hold for afghan women? many of them are in hiding right now. one female journalist says she feels like a prisoner inside of the taliban-controlled nation.

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