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If i recall correctly did say there was a sanctions package that's been put together. so you're seeing germany be a little bit more forceful than we had seen in last couple of months on this issue. go ahead. >> i'm sorry, this is -- i don't see, i hear. i want to see it. i don't believe mr. scholz. i don't believe macron. i don't believe anybody because wave been listening to all these promises for years. look at cnn headlines in 2008, in 2014, in 2015. putin is a pariah, the russian economy is in tatters, it's the russians who will pay the price. again, putin heard it and he's still fine. so ...

Phone and called the white house. but he physically went there and went in front than cameras. cnn soon after had a story -- howie: let me get to that in a minute. cnn headlines, devin nunes puts credibility of house committee in doubt. he sort of backed off. what do you make of the way it was covered? >> i don't think it was murky and what he said was interesting. he said there were dozen of reports with information collect on trump transition officials, it didn't have foreign intelligence value. but it was unmasked, and it had nothing to do with russia. this is the house intel chair saying t...

Phone and called the white house. but he physically went there and went in front than cameras. cnn soon after had a story -- howie: let me get to that in a minute. cnn headlines, devin nunes puts credibility of house committee in doubt. he sort of backed off. what do you make of the way it was covered? >> i don't think it was murky and what he said was interesting. he said there were dozen of reports with information collect on trump transition officials, it didn't have foreign intelligence value. but it was unmasked, and it had nothing to do with russia. this is the house intel chair saying t...