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People from cooperating in my opinion is obstruction. these e-mails look potentially explosive. as shan said, they use code language. they talk about establishing a back channel. those are things we saw in mob cases quite a bit. that said, they remain ambigue s. i think this middle man communicating between cohen and rudy giuliani, they have this other story which is i don't find it particularly plausible but it is possible that cohen was just worried that the president was mad at him and all that is being communicated is don't worry, the boss loves you, he is not mad at you. which version do ...

Georgia. if they win, they could be the first to lead those states. so in the florida governor's race, you had republican nominee ron desantis a while back imploring voters not to monkey it up. now days ahead of this election, you've got the former georgia governor making this reference to the florida contest, listen. >> public policy matters. leadership matters. and that's why this election is so cotton-picking important in the state of florida. i hope you all don't mess it up. >> all right. some taking offense to the cotton picking and saying, you know, that is code language. why this tactic...

Of this. i think instead they're trying to pull things back to health care, which has been an issue that's working well for them. i said in my column, pick your fear, loss of your health care coverage or invasion of terrorists across the border. that's the kind of campaign we've got going here. >> right. and there's a lot of evidence that voters, including in red states, care a lot about the health care issues, that that is a pocketbook issue. we have a special report on that i should mention later in the show. clarence, you mentioned the dog whistle and the nationalism. here was the president...

Meetings is he believes in roberts interpretation of settled law. he's been a reliable anti-abortion vote every step of the way. he did say, you know, he used a lot of code language and, in fact, senator blumenthal called him on it afterwards, a lot of abortion on demand language, which is code to the anti-choice movement. in fact, there was, in fact, after the super precedent comment, life news sent out a missive to their members being like pay no attention. >> it's all good. >> it's all good. >> for viewers who aren't watching the entire exciting hearing, let me play more of the so-called as...

Why do you think he resisted cooperating with mueller? does he feel he can actually beat what's coming down? >> well, it could be a number of things. you're right that this would seem like a case that would be rife for cooperation given that it's so granular in the detailed allegations of what happened. i think it could be unbridled hubris. it could be just arrogance. but also of course we have unlike other criminal defendants we have this looming possibility of a presidential pardon. we saw president trump tweet he used that code language very unfair in that tweet about manafort. he had used ...