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"You talk so white.""She thinks she's white.""You're the whitest Black person I know." When I was a kid - and if I’m honest, well past that - nothing

Business and what i could use that i already had. so, i did this exhaustive research on this particular way of thinking, way of moving, way of you living, and that's "black magic." >> i know you talk about this a little bit in your experience there that you drew upon in business, this thing called code switching. it's a term used to describe alternating vernaculars, depending on the social context or a setting. how did you even learn how to code switch, and how has it impacted your career? >> well, you learn by necessity. you learn by osmosis. you learn being, in my case, a 6-year-old kid who ...

As a young google employee he thought that he had to emulate whiteness to be successful. he changed his wardrobe and showed up alone to parties, to invite intimidating white peers with the presence of his black friends. but sanders says that this stunted his growth, professionally and personally. he found that when he embraced was, doors actually began to open up for. him joining us once more's chance honors, offers a black magic, with black leaders learn from trauma and trial. let's start out it's great to have you, back i've been waiting to have this interview with you for a long, time so i'...

Never giving up. having great teachers. by that i mean, you know, my parents were great teachers. right? i always say parents are the most important teachers. and i really mean that. i had in my life as a 4-year-old i was afraid of, you know, going back and they told me i was going to be okay and i trusted them and they were right. i continued. i went back and then i fell in love with education. i fell in love with serving others. >> i imagine over the course of that life and that career you have learned how to do a lot of code switching. what has that looked like for you? >> it's interesting....

Having great teachers. by that i mean, you know, my parents were great teachers. right? i always say parents are the most important teachers. and i really mean that. i had in my life as a 4-year-old i was afraid of, you know, going back and they told me i was going to be okay and i trusted them and they were right. i continued. i went back and then i fell in love with education. i fell in love with serving others. >> i imagine over the course of that life an enthat career you have learned how to do a lot of code switching. what has that looked like for you? >> it's interesting. not only code s...