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Complementary of each other? >> they're both supporting the concept of freedom of religion. in the nudow case i wrote, i tried to explain some of those principles. it's important to think that to begin with, you're equally american no matter what religion you are, if you're no religion at all. that it's also important to -- the supreme court has said that religious people be allowed to speak and participate in the public square without having to sacrifice their religion in speaking in the public square, for example, practicing the religion in the public square. at the same time, both clauses p...

All. so the coercion idea i think comes out of both clauses as well. the cases that are establishment clause cases that don't involve coercion but some of the more -- the symbol, the religious symbol cases, as you well know, senator, that's a complicated body of law. each area of that has to be analyzed in its own silo. as a general matter, i think it's good to think of the two clauses working together for the concept of freedom of religion in the united states which i think is foundational to the constitution. >> when you were in private practice, you represented the adopt shalome sin gol, di...